{"id":1236,"date":"2012-11-10T12:34:10","date_gmt":"2012-11-10T11:34:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/?p=1236"},"modified":"2012-11-10T16:08:14","modified_gmt":"2012-11-10T15:08:14","slug":"accustom-yourself-to-order","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/?p=1236","title":{"rendered":"\u201eAccustom yourself to order!\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Wortwechsel zwischen Premierminister und Tiflis-OB<\/p>\n<p>Ein Treffen der besonderen Art gab es gestern zwischen Premierminister Bidsina Iwanischwili und dem Tifliser Oberb\u00fcrgermeister Gigi Ugulawa. Letzterer wollte unbedingt einer Kabinettsitzung der Regierung beiwohnen, um auf dieser die notwendige Winterhilfe f\u00fcr rund 600.000 sozial schwache Menschen in Tiflis anzumahnen, obwohl er nicht eingeladen war. Diese Winterhilfe war urspr\u00fcnglich eine kommunale Aufgabe der Stadt Tiflis, wurde aber noch von der alten Regierung gleich nach der Wahlniederlage per Dekret auf das Staatsbudget \u00fcbertragen, aus welchem Grund auch immer. Beobachter vermuten, dass wegen der regen Baut\u00e4tigkeit im Vorfeld der Parlamentswahlen die Stadtkasse etwas klamm geworden ist und man so die Verantwortung auf die neue Regierung abw\u00e4lzen will.<\/p>\n<p>Die Begegnung wurde per Video mitgeschnitten und danach von der Internet-Agentur <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cicil.ge\/\">www.civil.ge<\/a> ver\u00f6ffentlicht.<\/p>\n<p>Hier\u00a0der <strong>Text von civil.ge<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Tbilisi Mayor Gigi Ugulava got involved in a verbal exchange with PM Bidzina Ivanishvili when he turned up at a meeting of government, but was told he was there uninvited and was asked to leave.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Mayor Gigi Ugulava, who is President Saakashvili\u2019s ally, arrived at the government building before the start cabinet meeting on November 9, as he said, to raise the issue how to resolve a <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.civil.ge\/eng\/article.php?id=25413\">dispute between the capital city municipality and the government<\/a><\/strong> on who should fund number of social benefits for hundreds of thousands of Tbilisites \u2013 these are the programs, funding of which was originally an obligation of the mayor\u2019s office but just six days before the new government was confirmed, the previous one transferred duties to fund these programs to the central government.<\/p>\n<p>After Ugulava left the meeting of the government, he told journalists that what had happened was \u201cbeyond all limits\u201d, adding that he was told that he was not even entitled to attend the government meeting. \u201cWe are gradually receiving a close-door government which does not care about people\u2019s fate,\u201d Ugulava said.<\/p>\n<p>The government responded that the Tbilisi Mayor was not invited to attend the meeting, hence was not entitled to be there. Tbilisi Mayor\u2019s Office called on the government to release a video of the meeting, recorded by government\u2019s press office.<\/p>\n<p>The government released the video and said Ugulava tried to stage the show with a purpose of scoring political points.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=m_PGcJLBzKs\" target=\"_blank\">Five-minute video footage<\/a><\/strong> shows that before arrival of PM Ivanishvili at the cabinet meeting, government\u2019s parliamentary secretary Shalva Tadumadze was trying in vain to convince Ugulava to leave a meeting room as he was not invited to participate in the meeting. Tadumadze was telling Ugulava that the law did not envisage mayor\u2019s presence at a government session without having an invitation. Tadumadze was also telling him that the issue he wanted to raise was not in the agenda of the meeting at all.<\/p>\n<p>After PM Ivanishvili arrived and took his seat he told Mayor Ugulava that the government would invite him at a meeting \u201cwhen we deem it necessary.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSorry?\u201d the Mayor asked in a sense of asking PM to repeat what he has said; Ivanishvili repeated, but Ugulava again asked him to repeat. \u201cWhen we decide to discuss this issue [of funding social programs], we will invite you if we deem it necessary,\u201d Ivanishvili responded.<\/p>\n<p>They then continued exchange with the Mayor saying that the issue of funding of social programs was \u201curgent\u201d and PM telling Ugulava that he should not be \u201cdictating\u201d to the government what to discuss at its meeting.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI wanted to hear whether the government is going to discuss this issue which concerns 600,000 people in Tbilisi; if the answer is no, then of course I am not going to stay here and if it plans to discuss it, then\u2026\u201d Ugulava said, but was interrupted by Ivanishvili who told him: \u201cGigi, you behave incorrectly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s not a proper subordination,\u201d the PM continued. \u201cIt\u2019s not you who should be dictating here; it\u2019s a government meeting; you are not a member of the government. It\u2019s not up to you to determine agenda of government\u2019s [meeting].\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere was no such practice of not allowing local self-governance to attend government meeting even during Shevardnadze\u2019s [presidency],\u201d Ugulava responded.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou are violating subordination, please leave [the room]; we will call you when needed,\u201d Ivanishvili told the Mayor.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere is no subordination whatsoever between the PM and local-self governance,\u201d Ugulava told the PM.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou were acting like this previously and getting away with it, but now we want to put everything in order and please comply with the rules,\u201d Ivanishvili told Ugulava, who responded: \u201cIt\u2019s very good that you are going establish order, but I want to ask you once again: is the government going to discuss this issue of [funding social programs]?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have already responded you for three times on that question; how many more times should I repeat it? Or shall we continue our polemics throughout the entire government meeting?\u201d Ivanishvili asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThen please tell us when do you plan to discuss it?\u201d Ugulava asked Ivanishvili, who again repeated to Ugulava for several of times that the government would invite the Mayor when it decides to discuss the issue.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo need to get nervous about it,\u201d Ugulava told Ivanishvili.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI told you for five times already,\u201d Ivanishvili told him. \u201cBut you are kicking up a fuss here and staging demarche. I am telling you: you can\u2019t dictate here; we will call you when needed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOK, I see now; you are not going to discuss this issue, but say it without getting nervous,\u201d Ugulava said and stood up, but before leaving the room he told Ivanishvili: \u201cOn the issue of subordination you should know that local self-governance is not subordinated to the central government. As I understood, unfortunately you are not going to discuss this issue [of social programs\u2019 funding].\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI will teach you too to get used to order in this country,\u201d Ivanishvili told Ugulava.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPreach those who need it; thanks a lot and goodbye; we could have done it without insults,\u201d Ugulava said while leaving the room as Ivanishvili was telling him: \u201cAccustom yourself to order\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wortwechsel zwischen Premierminister und Tiflis-OB Ein Treffen der besonderen Art gab es gestern zwischen Premierminister Bidsina Iwanischwili und dem Tifliser Oberb\u00fcrgermeister Gigi Ugulawa. Letzterer wollte unbedingt einer Kabinettsitzung der Regierung beiwohnen, um auf dieser die notwendige Winterhilfe f\u00fcr rund 600.000 &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/?p=1236\">Weiterlesen <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"gallery","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[135,247,248],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1236"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1236"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1236\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1240,"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1236\/revisions\/1240"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1236"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1236"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.kaukasische-post.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1236"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}